Using My Voice – Parents, Children, and Choices
| August 27, 2012 | Posted by Issa under Parenting |
Check out this video about an episode of What Would You Do, a hidden camera show about public moral situations. This one is about child abduction.
In case you can’t see the video, here’s the short version. A participating little girl stands on a sidewalk and an adult male actor walks by, grabs her by the arm, and drags her away. The goal is to see what the public would do if a kid were being abducted. The abductor-actor sometimes acts like he’s scolding her and sometimes doesn’t say anything, while the girl yells, “You’re not my dad! Someone help me!” Many people stare but don’t help. Eventually a couple of guys begin to intervene and are let in that it’s for television. Then there’s an interview segment about the experiment.
I don’t want to focus on child abductions. Let’s talk about parenting.
In the interview, the abductor-actor tries to blame the inaction of the public on the Bystander Effect, which is when lots of people see something but none report it or help because they all assume someone else will. At least one interviewed bystander on the show talks about thinking someone else would take care of it. But I wonder how many people even thought what they were seeing was unusual. In order for the Bystander Effect to be in play, the people watching have to know they’re seeing a problem.
How is the behavior of the “abductor” fundamentally different from behavior we often see from parents?
One of the guys who stepped up to help says, “First I thought she was being a little disobedient, but then [the abductor wasn't] sayin’ nothing.”
Imagine if instead of being silent, the abductor was saying things like, “Come on, I don’t have time for this! We have to get to practice! We’re already late! Your brother is waiting in the car! Wait until I tell your mother!” Then nothing about the situation is really unusual at all, is it?
The interviewer wonders if people thought, “It’s just a kid acting up,” echoing the first assumption of the rescuer guy.
Instead of blaming the kid – ”acting up”, “being disobedient” – why doesn’t anyone assume it’s the parent being an asshole? And why wouldn’t they intervene if it is a parent?
Okay. Back up.
Two weeks ago I wrote about everyone deserving compassion. Last week I wrote about how parenting is hard. What am I doing calling parents assholes?
I’ll explain.
One of the valuable concepts I’ve learned from social justice activists is the idea of “centering”. Centering is about whose voices and opinions are focused on in a conversation and whose voices and opinions are pushed to the background. Because our culture works so hard to ignore the experiences of certain kinds of people, this concept is important all the time. The voices, opinions, and experiences of marginalized or oppressed people are all too frequently pushed to the side in favor of the opinions and experiences of privileged people.
Children are marginalized people in our society. Adults have a lot of privilege. I’m going to explore the idea of children as an oppressed class in future posts, but if that’s something that interests you right now, this adult privilege checklist is a good place to start reading. For now, I think we can all at least agree that children are smaller and weaker than their adult caregivers, and children have a lot fewer emotional and social resources at their disposal than adults do.
As I said in Compassion for Every Perspective, not everyone can give compassion to everyone else at all times. Sometimes we make choices about who we’re going to side with and how much energy we have for offering our support.
Let’s go back to my McDonald’s scenario from Parenting Isn’t Hard:
Say I’m in a McDonald’s. In a booth near me is what appears to be a romantically involved man and woman enjoying a meal together. Near the end of the meal, the woman accidentally knocks her soda over and it spills over the table and floor. The man leaps to his feet and yells, “Oh my god! I told you to be careful with that!” He grabs her by the arm and drags her out of the booth. “That’s the last time you get to have a medium drink!” He shoves her off to the side while he starts to clean up. “Go stand by the door, we’re going home right now.” After an initial little gasp at the spilled drink, the woman remains silent, body slack, eyes averted.
I would be horrified to witness this scene. I would worry about the verbal lashing, and I would worry about the physical aspects. Probably most people would be concerned on some level. However, when I witnessed that scene with, instead of a woman, a 10 year old child, no one batted an eye. It doesn’t even stand out. Doesn’t register. Some might even consider it “good discipline”.
But, it’s not. It’s just abusive. We would not say about the man, “Well, relationships are hard. He’s probably just having a bad day. Cut him some slack.”
As I said in Okay, Parenting Is Hard, I really do understand it when parents treat their kids in less than ideal ways. There are enormous pressures on parents, and we’re pretty much going it alone. There’s no village. Our society does very little to truly support parents and is also quick to blame parents for any perceived shortcoming in the child.
A separate issue is that our culture does even less to support children. One of the ways in which we don’t support children is when we leave unaddressed the issue of their parents physically and emotionally abusing them.
I do believe that parents deserve far more compassion and support for their situations, even when I think their behavior towards their kids is abusive. However, I think it is more important for me to speak up for the kids who have far fewer voices on their side.
In the issue of parents physically manhandling their children and verbally berating them, I choose to speak out publicly on behalf of children. When I talk about how I see people treating children, I choose to center the perspective of the children.
I hope that others will increasingly do the same.
If I get upset with Dylan and yell at him, grab him, smack him, or belittle him, I hope that my partner and my friends are gentle with me, that they understand where I’m coming from, and that they know I love him. Of course. But for crying out loud, I also hope they don’t just brush it off, act like it’s no big deal, or pretend it’s just all part of the definition of parenting. I hope they instead treat it like a problem that needs to be fixed. My problem that needs to be fixed by me, and by them if it’s something they can help with and something I need help with.
But it’s not Dylan’s problem to fix, except inasmuch as he’s the one stuck being the target. It’s not his “misbehavior” that’s the problem – it’s my anger, or my weariness, or my lack of social support. I hope my friends are his friends, too, and they don’t see him as the right and natural recipient of my violence but instead support BOTH OF US in finding other ways to relate.
I wish my culture didn’t make it so easy to be assholes to kids. But there it is. It’s easy to be mean to your kids. Plenty of people don’t even think there’s anything wrong with being mean to kids. There are multitudes of voices saying it’s perfectly acceptable to yell at your kids, drag them by the arm, call them names, belittle their concerns, etc. And even if you do feel judged and criticized as a parent, as an adult you have lots of support available to you, even if it’s just commiserating with other parents on the internet.
On the other hand, where are the voices sticking up for the bodies, rights, and opinions of the kids? There aren’t nearly as many of those. In fact, too many attempts to speak up on behalf of children are drowned out in favor of centering the viewpoint of the parents or casting the child as the villain.
I repeat, again, for the record, I really do understand that parenting is a difficult job, that parents have bad days, and that parents don’t always live up to their best ideals. I understand that, and I have compassion for parents, including myself when I fall short of my own ideals.
Children need more people standing up and saying that the way the kid in the McDonald’s was treated is wrong. The way the girl in the video up there was treated is wrong. That’s not just “parenting”. It’s violence. It’s mistreatment. It needs to be addressed. I don’t know exactly how to address it, other than to keep looking and to keep talking about it.
But kids need more people on their side, and I’m going to be one of those people.









I realize it may not exactly fit in with today’s post but it seems to fit in with the theme of these posts: http://www.checklistmommy.com/2012/02/09/tricky-people-are-the-new-strangers/
Some interesting stuff at that link – might turn into a post of its own here. Thanks. Since this post is about the behavior of parents towards their children, I’m not going to comment more on child safety advice.
I feel the same way.
I wondered how you were going to merge the two differing viewpoints, and you did it brilliantly. Brava!
The thing about being a parent of a 2-4 year old that surprised me (vs what I had experienced as a nanny for the same age) was how abusive the relationship felt at times. In no way would that excuse me striking back, or even the yelling, but it was so hard for me to maintain any sense of compassion or composure with her when she was acting so violently to me. When you legally can’t run away from the person hurting you, what do you do?
But, I am so glad that you are speaking up for the rights and safety of children. The way people applaud and encourage each other to hurt their children in the name of discipline appalls me.
I can’t offer anything concrete off the top of my head, because I’ve never had that feeling of being abused by a kid.
My advice would be to break apart the connections, assumptions, and causes in the relationship until you find something more workable. My question process might go something like this: WHY is the child being violent? What is the root, the triggers? What does the child need that I’m not providing? That I can’t provide, maybe? Where can she get it instead? What can I do to protect myself so I feel more compassionate? (Like, earplugs?) Is it true that I’m stuck here and can’t run away? What about just to the next room? What about getting a babysitter?
While you can’t give up responsibility, you can’t become a different person than you are, and your child can’t be a different child, a lot of times there’s plenty of unexplored territory that can turn up real solutions. If you feel terrorized by a toddler, it’s definitely time to turn things over and find a new way!
Oh, and join a support group! I like the Consensual Living email list on Yahoo. Other people sometimes come up with amazing suggestions, and the people on that list do so with lots of compassion for everyone in the situation.
I would never embarass my child in public. I believe in corporal punishment as a last resort but even when I got a spanking as a child my Mother never did it in front of people. If my child has done something bad enough to deserve a spanking then she will get an openhand swat on the behind but never in front of someone. She’ll forget about a swat but she would never forget the humiliation and I think that humiliating a child is abuse.
I don’t think hitting/spanking/swatting is a right way to treat a child, either, but you make an interesting point, which I’ve heard from Alfie Kohn, too. Now that hitting kids has fallen more out of fashion, it’s popular to think that the things we do instead are “better”, but these often amount to emotional or psychological punishment than may very well be more harmful to kids than the hitting was.
I think that emotional scarring is harder to forget. Physical pain is a part of life. You scrape your knee get bruised up and usually end up with a couple good cuts along the way. You grow up and forget about it. It’s the kids that were teased in school that have the most problems. Like I said…corporal punishment as a last resort. I personally love time out because my little girl is a ball of energy and being made to sit still breaks her heart. But I could never embarass my child in public and I feel sorry for kids who have parents that do.
You say that time out “breaks her heart” but that you love it? That sounds really strange to me. Why would you want to break her heart?
I love that it is an effective form of discipline that isn’t a spanking. Kids need discipline. I go out and see so many kids running rampant and I’m not a fan of those stupid harness leashes that people put on their kids. I find it very lazy. I’m not worried about my kid annoying someone because kids are loud and hyper and they aren’t supposed to be perfect. But there is a safety factor involved. I’ve seen kids run off into parking lots and had kids run into me. What if they ran into an older person and knocked them down? Or kids throwing tantrums because they couldn’t get something they wanted. Life isn’t fair and you don’t always get what you want. I think that parents that allow their child to get away with murder and give them everything they want are doing them an injustice. I grew up with a couple of kids like that and they don’t know which way to turn now without Mom or Dad saving their butts. Mom and Dad won’t be around forever.
I don’t think kids need discipline. Kids need relationships with people who care for them, communicate with them, show them how to do things, work with their needs, pay attention, etc. We could probably agree on some things we don’t want to see from people in public, like running into other people or running into the street, but I don’t agree that hitting them or breaking their hearts is the right way to talk people out of running into the streets. Especially small people who depend on us for their sense of self. What if a child ran into an older person? Yes, that might be sad, upsetting, or harmful to the older person. What if a child is running around for whatever reason (restlessness, to get somewhere exciting, etc.) and then a parent swoops in to “discipline” the child. That might ALSO be sad, upsetting, or harmful to the child. Aren’t there other options that don’t involve viewing the situation as an opportunity for discipline? I like Kohn’s distinction between “doing to” children and “working with” children. For almost anything a kid can come up with, there’s a way to worth WITH the child to figure stuff out.
Also, glad to see you over here from the SITS forum. Thanks for commenting! :-)